Steve Rodrigues wrote:Re: USHPA BOD meeting in Seattle, October 10-12, 2013
The following summary touches on a few important topics from last weekend’s BOD meeting.
Chapter Support Committee
Committee discussed subject of hang glider only or paragliding only flying sites. Various committee members pointed out that there are wing-specific flying sites all across the U.S. The committee supports SOP 06-01.04 paragraph E.
“Chapters may not, as a matter of policy, negligently or willfully discriminate against pilots of one glider type, either hang glider or paraglider, or discriminate between pilots of equal pilot rating. Chapters must ensure that recreational flight privileges are made available to any and all qualified USHPA members meeting Chapter site requirements in a fair and equitable manner without discrimination.
Note: This requirement does not indicate that a site cannot be hang gliding only or paragliding only. Glider specific sites are permissible for safety, land owner, and possibly other conditions.
In extraordinary circumstances, a Club may not be able to conform to the organizational requirements. The Club can submit a request for exemption from an organizational requirement to the Chapter Support Committee. Exemptions to requirements must be approved by the Chapter Support Committee and the
Board of Directors."
Steve Rodrigues wrote:Bob,
Your quote: " Can't pilots simply choose to have hang gliding clubs or paragliding clubs because they want to belong to hang gliding clubs or paragliding clubs?"
Of course pilots can have and join whatever clubs they want! Exactly what language leads you to believe differently?
“Chapters may not, as a matter of policy, negligently or willfully discriminate against pilots of one glider type, either hang glider or paraglider, or discriminate between pilots of equal pilot rating. Chapters must ensure that recreational flight privileges are made available to any and all qualified USHPA members meeting Chapter site requirements in a fair and equitable manner without discrimination."
“Chapters may not, as a matter of policy, negligently or willfully discriminate against pilots of one glider type, either hang glider or paraglider, or discriminate between pilots of equal pilot rating."
Steve Rodrigues wrote:Certainly you have seen this boilerplate type of anti-discrimination wording everywhere else in the world, don't pretend that the USHPA made it up.
Steve Rodrigues wrote:They did however craft this wording, specifically to protect sites like Fort Funston: "Note: This requirement does not indicate that a site cannot be hang gliding only or paragliding only. Glider specific sites are permissible for safety, land owner, and possibly other conditions."
Care to explain why you don't acknowledge that this protects HG only sites?
He has also stepped up personally to reason with certain PG pilots, asking them not to create further problems with the GGNRA.
Sorry but I will not post details of another persons private conversations on a public discussion board so really can't be more specific
Steve Rodrigues wrote:You can relax, this time it wasn't you! >;-)
“Chapters may not, as a matter of policy, negligently or willfully discriminate against pilots of one glider type, either hang glider or paraglider, or discriminate between pilots of equal pilot rating. Chapters must ensure that recreational flight privileges are made available to any and all qualified USHPA members meeting Chapter site requirements in a fair and equitable manner without discrimination.
Note: This requirement does not indicate that a site cannot be hang gliding only or paragliding only. Glider specific sites are permissible for safety, land owner, and possibly other conditions.
In extraordinary circumstances, a Club may not be able to conform to the organizational requirements. The Club can submit a request for exemption from an organizational requirement to the Chapter Support Committee. Exemptions to requirements must be approved by the Chapter Support Committee and the Board of Directors."
Chapters are self-governed and shall be able to make their own rules regarding membership and site use.
Steve Rodrigues wrote:The FF doesn't need to do a damn thing to remain HG only, the club is fine. You are making a problem out of nothing ...
bobk wrote:Here's what I would suggest as a replacement for that whole section:Chapters are self-governed and shall be able to make their own rules regarding membership and site use.
spork wrote:I can't imagine they'd go for anything that broad. If you're an USHPA site you're under USHPA insurance. They're not going to say "do whatever you like" and still insure you.
Besides, the only thing HG only about Funston is launching and landing. Are you going to lobby USHPA to overrule the FAA
bobk wrote:It appears that spork (well known for trying to increase PG access to Funston) seems to like this new SOP. Does anyone need any more proof than that?
spork wrote:I don't give a shit about the new SOP. ... At least get your facts straight Bob.
bobk wrote:If you say you don't care, then I'm sorry, but I won't believe you.
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